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naruto
Jan 29, 2010 22:43:50 GMT -5
Post by iziz on Jan 29, 2010 22:43:50 GMT -5
well, itachi transferred some of the eye tricks without having to be killed. remember his flicking his finger at sasuke's eye pretending he wanted to steal it. but he really used the chance to transfer his power to sasuke's eye. so he didn't really have to die for sasuke to gain that other ability did he? ? also, to get that trick, do you really have to kill your close friend? or is that just a lie... since it looks like kakashi got an upgrade to his sharigan.. and i doubt that he would have killed someone close to him. (doesn't seem like something he'd do) so my theory is that itachi saw that tobi was a force to be reckoned and needed to do something, but he couldn't come up with some plan while being watched. therefore he faked his death- which satisfied his brother and left him free to do something tho, it is just a theory. i think he probably did know he would let himself die, that's why he gave naruto something.... itachi sure did a lot of planning XD i mean even with his fight with sasuke he purposefully did stuff to rid that snake from sasuke still, lol, i don't think that a ninja could take out all those skilled ninja in his family (other relatives besides parents) without someone noticing. it showed a ton of bodies in that area.... and i'm sure a battle would have been noisy and yeah. i'm not sure how that eye trick is supposed to be any different, just more powerful i guess?- it seems to me more like it's an extra life. sorta like in a video game where you get killed but are revived since you have an extra life? it is supposed to be named after some japanese mythology that deals with creation and death. i and don't think that he's a uchiha. i think that he used all the eyes that he got from having itachi kill all the uchiha. and it looked like he worked some with oricimaru too to modify them since he doesn't have the blood that is required to control the ability to the best and i think that sasuke's thing didn't work right, because he hasn't fully developed the technique and needs practice XD so maybe eventually he'll be better at it.. ugh. stupid sasuke i don't like tobi as madara either. though, lol i still hear people arguing that he's obito and not madara XD
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naruto
Jan 30, 2010 2:57:21 GMT -5
Post by orc72 on Jan 30, 2010 2:57:21 GMT -5
ah yeah..I dunno..I think eventully theyll explain it better. Weather by itachi showing up again, or another part of his plan coming to light and sasuke being all OH! and having a flash back.
maybe itachi had help of some kind..or used some sorta jutsu to make everyone else..stupid? lol
I dunno. Thats what the shrine thing said and how itachi got his. Im not sure about kakashi . Maybe his already had it, or maybe he figured out a differnt way to advance it, which sounds kinda plasuable. I mean he was known as the Copy Ninja even back when there were uchihas, so clearly he used the sharingan more then them, and he figured out how to use all the elements instead of just one or two. So him finding differnt uses to sharingan sounds likely, specially after itachi used his sharingan on kakashi. Also kakashis seems to work differnt then the others. Since he used it to like teleport peices of deidara away instead of just trapping people in illiusions or summoning black fire demons.
I could see him being obito more then madara xD the evidence points more to it since he has the oppisite eye, and the right side of his body is robotic.
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naruto
Jan 31, 2010 0:04:27 GMT -5
Post by iziz on Jan 31, 2010 0:04:27 GMT -5
they'll probably have some explanation later, i hope.... and it sounded like itachi had that plan for naruto in case sasuke did try to avenge his family by attacking konohana. he realized that naruto could bring him back to the light if he failed lol. stupidity jutsu ftw thought that kakashi had the same one as the killing one was. i don't think he had that ability before though, because when he met itachi he didn't use it. (plus, don't think obito would have killed a close comrade either, and he seemed pretty klutzy for a ninja to kill someone unless the someone was very weak...) i think the mengekyo was just basically like another level up in eye ability- so just like different users already had different abilities with their eyes so when they "leveled" up those certain abilities are strengthened more to lead to new abilities which are based off the preceding ones. i think the mengekyo might just come from the emotional strain of losing someone close, not necessary the killing part. looking how the sharigan is even activated in the uchiha in the first place, it seems to be more by emotions. plus, kakashi, since he isn't naturally a sharigan user, would have a harder time controlling it- so doubtful he could find a way that is so much different than the natural way. i mean, he can't shut off his eyes like sasuke and itachi and has to keep it covered. kakashi had the eye (so could be called the copy cat ninja) before all the uchicha clan was annihlated. because obito was a uchiha and died before the massacre occured i'm not sure it could be obito. 1. obito's personality cared about people that he was willing to sacrifice himself to save his friends. he didn't seem to mind that he died to protect kakashi and even gave him a gift to help continue protecting his friends - so why would he change his mind and want to kill them? and he was a big crybaby, and we haven't seen tobi cry lol also, tobi summoned the fox, and the fox itself said it was evvvvvilll chakra 2. a bunch of falling rocks on you would most likely kill you... then a whole landside on you most definitely should kill you 3. maybe he used an eye trick to save himself. that said tho, the only one is izanagi- and that would cause him to lose another eye. therefore, he'd have no sharigans? but itachi said his eyes were fine 4. he keeps telling everyone he's madara XD and others (itachi and some atsuki recognized him as such) tho, i guess the carefree goofy part does sorta seem more like obito XD and it could be possible that he is trying to trick everyone he's madara... but i still don't think he'd be obito XD maybe he's just really tobi. but wanted to be special
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naruto
Feb 1, 2010 22:16:55 GMT -5
Post by orc72 on Feb 1, 2010 22:16:55 GMT -5
i know he did..thats why i think he was better at using it then most of the uchiha..less of course the copy cat ninja came from him having the eye instead of just him using peoples stuff.. Emotion makes sense, though I think hateing someone enough to kill them is differnt then just loosing someone you like.
yeah. kinda wonder how naruto will though at this point, since hte only way to keep up with sasuke would be the fox which basically kills him now..
Eh maybe..though i wouldn't doubt it if obito somehow survived even if hes not tobi..I mean theres been a ton of fatal injurys in naruto that people walk away just fine from. Especially if there named Naruto or Sasuke...though atleast narutos is somewhat explained by the fox.. Though I kinda agree with either. I dont think that hes madara (mainly cause, hed have to be like.200 years old?) , though i wouldn't doubt that its madaras eye to explain why people recognize the chakra.
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naruto
Feb 2, 2010 0:42:58 GMT -5
Post by iziz on Feb 2, 2010 0:42:58 GMT -5
yeah, i think it came from his eye that he got the reputation. didn't seem to have it before then. sure, he was skilled, but don't think he was called that until later when the eye gave him the power to be a copy cat XD because.... ummm itachi gave him a super power! lol dunno. no idea. but seeing as it is called naruto, naruto should win.. right? true. but most cases because someone saved them. like gaara had the granny. naruto had the fox's super healing abilities. sasuke had orichimaru's snakes healing abilities/immortal whatever it was. kakashi et al was saved by pain. danzo's because of the uchiha eyes that he stole. don't think obito had anyone to help him. tho, it is possible he used the izanagi eye i only wish parvy sage didn't die or was mysteriously brought back and, dunno if it's that old, but yeah. would be pretty old and would in all likelihood be dead. but itachi made it sound as if madara's eye had the ability to transcend space and time because of the way he could change reality? at least it sorta sounded like that. but still, sounds awfully fishy. so i don't think it's really madara (not sure what the purpose is of that claim- maybe to strike fear and confusion to obtain his plan) and don't think it's obito XD
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naruto
Feb 2, 2010 17:03:54 GMT -5
Post by orc72 on Feb 2, 2010 17:03:54 GMT -5
actully, i wouldnt be at all suprised if naruto died. I think the last fight sasuke will kill sakura, naruto will snap, fight sasuke, sasuke will kill naruto, then killing naruto will have this hole revolation of what have i done, then snap and kill madara. Atleast going along with how the mangaka writting style is, its hard to see it being a happy ending for naruto
yeah. Jiraya dieing was sad. He should become like ObiWon and be a ghost ninja to talk to naruto..like narutos dad (uh..5th? 4th? 3rd?) did with the seal.
Tobi is a good boy. Tobi time travels!
I think sasuke survived because he wears a great amount of plot armor..
Yeah..could be like Ebion in soul eater. Just saying he's Ebion because it makes people scared and respect you when they never even met you before.
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naruto
Feb 3, 2010 19:54:49 GMT -5
Post by iziz on Feb 3, 2010 19:54:49 GMT -5
i still don't think naruto will die. lol. i think that he'll make tons of bad things happen, and have it look like naruto will lose, but naruto will persevere might not be a happy ending- probably will lose more of his ninja friends, but naruto himself won't die that'd be cool. lol. or... somehow miraculously he survived because the bleach manta ray swallowed him in the water... lol. mangaka can't kill his sasuke :/ yeah. dunno who he really is because of the mask. and getting to be feared for someone eles' reputation can make you more effective. like... the dread pirate roberts! lol
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naruto
Feb 4, 2010 1:33:16 GMT -5
Post by orc72 on Feb 4, 2010 1:33:16 GMT -5
yeah..on the bright side, for them to kill someone off theyll get some more screentime instead of sasuke...less sasuke is the killer...
or maybe pain revived him too...since technically he did recently kill him and he said he would res those he just killed...
i still find it funny that his mask is swirrlly considering Naruto Shippuden is basically saying Swirlling Whirl Pool...
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naruto
Feb 4, 2010 21:06:37 GMT -5
Post by iziz on Feb 4, 2010 21:06:37 GMT -5
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naruto
Feb 5, 2010 4:30:35 GMT -5
Post by orc72 on Feb 5, 2010 4:30:35 GMT -5
xD he should a bought ichigos mask too! he coulda been a good vizard boy!
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naruto
Feb 5, 2010 19:27:17 GMT -5
Post by iziz on Feb 5, 2010 19:27:17 GMT -5
lol. maybe that's where ichigo got his mask too that mask dude sure gets around
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naruto
Feb 6, 2010 2:29:09 GMT -5
Post by orc72 on Feb 6, 2010 2:29:09 GMT -5
wonder if he sold the gurren laggan guy his glasses too..
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naruto
Feb 6, 2010 19:10:15 GMT -5
Post by iziz on Feb 6, 2010 19:10:15 GMT -5
lol XD
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naruto
Feb 6, 2010 20:02:03 GMT -5
Post by iziz on Feb 6, 2010 20:02:03 GMT -5
wah! i wish i had disney xd... they are showing naruto shippuden :/
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naruto
Feb 7, 2010 0:37:43 GMT -5
Post by orc72 on Feb 7, 2010 0:37:43 GMT -5
..how did that happen xD from CN to disney when the plot gets darker? I was hopping for AS to get it.
if it makes you feel better , I dont like the shippuden anime at all..it gets really dbz paced....well some people say it gets better after the orichimaru arc, but i havnt watched yet to find out.
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